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		<title>By: David Findley</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-45039</link>
		<dc:creator>David Findley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use VisualSVN and love it.

http://www.visualsvn.com

It sits on top of tortoise svn and gives you the IDE integration you want. It is not a MSSCI plugin so it doesnt have any of the binding issues people mention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use VisualSVN and love it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.visualsvn.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.visualsvn.com</a></p>
<p>It sits on top of tortoise svn and gives you the IDE integration you want. It is not a MSSCI plugin so it doesnt have any of the binding issues people mention.</p>
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		<title>By: David Starr</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-44604</link>
		<dc:creator>David Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: I just got an NCover license and will be comparing that to VSTS code coverage out of the box in the next few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: I just got an NCover license and will be comparing that to VSTS code coverage out of the box in the next few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflective Perspective - Chris Alcock &#187; The Morning Brew #302</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-44466</link>
		<dc:creator>Reflective Perspective - Chris Alcock &#187; The Morning Brew #302</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rebooting My Development Environment - David Starr looks at some alternative tools for unit testing, code coverage and Continuous integration, comparing them to his usual tool set. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rebooting My Development Environment &#8211; David Starr looks at some alternative tools for unit testing, code coverage and Continuous integration, comparing them to his usual tool set. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Huijben</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-44453</link>
		<dc:creator>Bert Huijben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Can you please contact us on the AnkhSVN problem you refer to in your mail. (It is not a known or earlier reported issue, but we like to have more details so we can resolve it anyway).

Thanks,
   Bert
(One of the AnkhSVN developers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Can you please contact us on the AnkhSVN problem you refer to in your mail. (It is not a known or earlier reported issue, but we like to have more details so we can resolve it anyway).</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
   Bert<br />
(One of the AnkhSVN developers)</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio Pereira</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-44442</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David it really sounds like NCover is the real reason you dismissed everything else. I personally never had any serious problem running NCover. Sometimes it was tricky to get it right with NAnt and cc.net, but nothing impossible or impractical.

@Tony, if you have not tried AnkhSvn since the 2.0 release, especially the recent update in the last few days, you should give it a second look. It&#039;s got nothing to do with v1.0, forget that thing :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David it really sounds like NCover is the real reason you dismissed everything else. I personally never had any serious problem running NCover. Sometimes it was tricky to get it right with NAnt and cc.net, but nothing impossible or impractical.</p>
<p>@Tony, if you have not tried AnkhSvn since the 2.0 release, especially the recent update in the last few days, you should give it a second look. It&#8217;s got nothing to do with v1.0, forget that thing <img src='http://elegantcode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Pokluda</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-44407</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pokluda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the post and for the information about Sneal - I will check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the post and for the information about Sneal &#8211; I will check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Rasa</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-44402</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Rasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TestDriven:  very fast.  much less overhead than either the R# runner or MStest runner (imho of course).

ide integration: If the only dev tool I used was Visual Studio then maybe having everything in the solution wouldn&#039;t be a big deal, but I use all sorts of tools, and I have files and folders that I don&#039;t necessarily want to be strictly under the control of visual studio for the scc integration to work.  [Yeah, I know, next we&#039;ll be arguing about which text editor is better.]   

I know that the SCC bindings in vs08 are much improved, so maybe I should Give Ankh A Chance and see if my opinions change. :)

I&#039;ll end with this: I think its funny that something I am often annoyed by (IDE integration) is, to somebody else, a terrific thing.  You just have to love a line of work which allows such an incredibly wide expanse of opinions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TestDriven:  very fast.  much less overhead than either the R# runner or MStest runner (imho of course).</p>
<p>ide integration: If the only dev tool I used was Visual Studio then maybe having everything in the solution wouldn&#8217;t be a big deal, but I use all sorts of tools, and I have files and folders that I don&#8217;t necessarily want to be strictly under the control of visual studio for the scc integration to work.  [Yeah, I know, next we'll be arguing about which text editor is better.]   </p>
<p>I know that the SCC bindings in vs08 are much improved, so maybe I should Give Ankh A Chance and see if my opinions change. <img src='http://elegantcode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll end with this: I think its funny that something I am often annoyed by (IDE integration) is, to somebody else, a terrific thing.  You just have to love a line of work which allows such an incredibly wide expanse of opinions!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-44400</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few more pros and one con for these tools...

TestDriven:
  Results in Output pane, rather than a window.  
   If all tests passed, the only message I see is xx Tests Passed, 0 failed (I don&#039;t need to see a green indicator for every test.)
   On failed tests, double-clicking on the noted exception (with a line number) takes you to that line in your code.
   The ability to rerun a test, no matter where you are in the code.

TeamCity:  
   Once you get NCover running, integrating it with TeamCity is fairly straightforward.  
   With a little work, you could probably integrate the output from MSTest as well (using trx files)

MSTest: 
 - My biggest gripe with MSTest and the MSTest runner is all the files/folders it creates with each test run 
   When running MSTest with TestDriven, these files are not created/retained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more pros and one con for these tools&#8230;</p>
<p>TestDriven:<br />
  Results in Output pane, rather than a window.<br />
   If all tests passed, the only message I see is xx Tests Passed, 0 failed (I don&#8217;t need to see a green indicator for every test.)<br />
   On failed tests, double-clicking on the noted exception (with a line number) takes you to that line in your code.<br />
   The ability to rerun a test, no matter where you are in the code.</p>
<p>TeamCity:<br />
   Once you get NCover running, integrating it with TeamCity is fairly straightforward.<br />
   With a little work, you could probably integrate the output from MSTest as well (using trx files)</p>
<p>MSTest:<br />
 &#8211; My biggest gripe with MSTest and the MSTest runner is all the files/folders it creates with each test run<br />
   When running MSTest with TestDriven, these files are not created/retained.</p>
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		<title>By: Arjan`s World &#187; LINKBLOG for March 6, 2009</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-44398</link>
		<dc:creator>Arjan`s World &#187; LINKBLOG for March 6, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rebooting My Development Environment - David Starr As an exception to all Team System battering, David is not that unhappy with it&#8216; I am not unhappy with the tooling I am getting and will probably uninstall NCover, NUnit, TestDriven.NET and stay with what I am getting from VSTS &#8216; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rebooting My Development Environment &#8211; David Starr As an exception to all Team System battering, David is not that unhappy with it&#8216; I am not unhappy with the tooling I am getting and will probably uninstall NCover, NUnit, TestDriven.NET and stay with what I am getting from VSTS &#8216; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2009/03/06/rebooting-my-development-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-44396</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use UltraEdit for a lot of things that VS cannot do, it&#039;s a must have on my development machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use UltraEdit for a lot of things that VS cannot do, it&#8217;s a must have on my development machine.</p>
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