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		<title>By: Elegant Code &#187; Slicing the day</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2010/01/15/pair-programming-session/comment-page-2/#comment-53294</link>
		<dc:creator>Elegant Code &#187; Slicing the day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] along the way, one of them is that pairing (a practice that I value very much, read more about that here and here) becomes very difficult because most of your college&#8217;s would not be slicing the day [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] along the way, one of them is that pairing (a practice that I value very much, read more about that here and here) becomes very difficult because most of your college&#8217;s would not be slicing the day [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jag Reehal</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2010/01/15/pair-programming-session/comment-page-2/#comment-52958</link>
		<dc:creator>Jag Reehal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

Good post.

While pair programming can work I have seen cases where it doesn&#039;t work.  Read my post Pair Programming Is Not a Silver Bullet http://www.arrangeactassert.com/pair-programming-is-not-a-silver-bullet/

Cheers,

Jag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>Good post.</p>
<p>While pair programming can work I have seen cases where it doesn&#8217;t work.  Read my post Pair Programming Is Not a Silver Bullet <a href="http://www.arrangeactassert.com/pair-programming-is-not-a-silver-bullet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.arrangeactassert.com/pair-programming-is-not-a-silver-bullet/</a></p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jag</p>
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		<title>By: The Morning Brew - Chris Alcock &#187; The Morning Brew #519</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Morning Brew - Chris Alcock &#187; The Morning Brew #519</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pair Programming session - Mark Nijhof talks about a recent good pair programming experience, and follows up with a post (Pair Programming continued) which looks at some of the factors and facilities required to make pairing a success. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pair Programming session &#8211; Mark Nijhof talks about a recent good pair programming experience, and follows up with a post (Pair Programming continued) which looks at some of the factors and facilities required to make pairing a success. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Perfors</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Perfors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 07:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-52880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mark Nijhof&lt;/a&gt; 
No we are sitting in the same room and looking at each other :) That we use VNC is just for convenience, so that we don&#039;t have to move to each others side of the room, and besides that our desks have different heights which make working on the same desk uncomfortable.

The reason why I don&#039;t call it pair programming is because we are not really switching constantly. It is just when one of us has a problem we look at each others computer and communicate, some times this results in coding (mostly from my side I guess...) but most of the times it is not.

Basically this is (I think) because my colleague is taking over the project and I have to explain a lot of the code (shame on the people who started the project (and on me) they/we didn&#039;t do much testing..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-52880" rel="nofollow">@Mark Nijhof</a><br />
No we are sitting in the same room and looking at each other <img src='http://elegantcode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  That we use VNC is just for convenience, so that we don&#8217;t have to move to each others side of the room, and besides that our desks have different heights which make working on the same desk uncomfortable.</p>
<p>The reason why I don&#8217;t call it pair programming is because we are not really switching constantly. It is just when one of us has a problem we look at each others computer and communicate, some times this results in coding (mostly from my side I guess&#8230;) but most of the times it is not.</p>
<p>Basically this is (I think) because my colleague is taking over the project and I have to explain a lot of the code (shame on the people who started the project (and on me) they/we didn&#8217;t do much testing..)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are around 70 unedited videos of pair programming at &lt;a href=&quot;http://pairwith.us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pairwith.us&lt;/a&gt;. One of the nice things is that the code being built is real code, rather than a worked example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are around 70 unedited videos of pair programming at <a href="http://pairwith.us" rel="nofollow">pairwith.us</a>. One of the nice things is that the code being built is real code, rather than a worked example.</p>
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		<title>By: Szymon Kulec</title>
		<link>http://elegantcode.com/2010/01/15/pair-programming-session/comment-page-1/#comment-52908</link>
		<dc:creator>Szymon Kulec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When one had the keyboard, the second could have had the mouse. That would be really extreme ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one had the keyboard, the second could have had the mouse. That would be really extreme <img src='http://elegantcode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Elegant Code &#187; Pair Programming continued</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elegant Code &#187; Pair Programming continued</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 02:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my previous post I talked about how I experience a really good pairing session, and in this post I like to discuss [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Nijhof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Nijhof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-52847&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Chad Myers&lt;/a&gt; 
Absolutely agree, it is a great way of programming. But why is one responsible for making the test green, why not both? The same for writing the tests.

How are your two monitors setup? Are they both showing the same content or use one main and a secondary monitor (this is what we have). 

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-52858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Øyvind Fanebust&lt;/a&gt; 
Yeah but I still felt that we pushed the strict rules for much too long.

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-52860&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@David Perfors&lt;/a&gt; 
I think that especially the part that you are missing is the very direct communication and body language, is one of the things that make pair programming so valuable. Are you working remotely?

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-52873&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@John Sonmez&lt;/a&gt; 
Øyvind an I had been pair programming for about 7 months as well together with other members of the team at the client, and I had been doing it before that as well, but this time was for sure the most effective and pleasurable time. I am going to write a follow-up post on this as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-52847" rel="nofollow">@Chad Myers</a><br />
Absolutely agree, it is a great way of programming. But why is one responsible for making the test green, why not both? The same for writing the tests.</p>
<p>How are your two monitors setup? Are they both showing the same content or use one main and a secondary monitor (this is what we have). </p>
<p><a href="#comment-52858" rel="nofollow">@Øyvind Fanebust</a><br />
Yeah but I still felt that we pushed the strict rules for much too long.</p>
<p><a href="#comment-52860" rel="nofollow">@David Perfors</a><br />
I think that especially the part that you are missing is the very direct communication and body language, is one of the things that make pair programming so valuable. Are you working remotely?</p>
<p><a href="#comment-52873" rel="nofollow">@John Sonmez</a><br />
Øyvind an I had been pair programming for about 7 months as well together with other members of the team at the client, and I had been doing it before that as well, but this time was for sure the most effective and pleasurable time. I am going to write a follow-up post on this as well.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sonmez</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sonmez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its amazing how effective pair programming can be.  It is really good to expand your horizons a bit, and great for training.  I wrote about the benefits here:  http://simpleprogrammer.com/2009/12/11/pair-programming-why/

Thanks for the PDF that is a good read.  I think what you describe and neither being navigator or driver is the best way to go, but it usually takes two the the same level of development skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing how effective pair programming can be.  It is really good to expand your horizons a bit, and great for training.  I wrote about the benefits here:  <a href="http://simpleprogrammer.com/2009/12/11/pair-programming-why/" rel="nofollow">http://simpleprogrammer.com/2009/12/11/pair-programming-why/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the PDF that is a good read.  I think what you describe and neither being navigator or driver is the best way to go, but it usually takes two the the same level of development skill.</p>
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		<title>By: David Perfors</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Perfors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My colleague and I are sitting in the same room and we use VNC to look at each others computer. I really enjoy that, sitting on my own computer and helping each other is great. Although I can&#039;t really talk about pair programming...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My colleague and I are sitting in the same room and we use VNC to look at each others computer. I really enjoy that, sitting on my own computer and helping each other is great. Although I can&#8217;t really talk about pair programming&#8230;</p>
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